Phil Spickler – Class VIII Auditor Is Answering the Questions that Russians Asked about Scientology
Phil Spickler is a class VIII auditor from 1952, working with Ron. In March 5th he will be 82 years young. :)
Please, stop by at his website “From Stanford With Love” to read his articles, see more videos, to comment or to just say hello to a friend that he is been to us.
Part 1: Phil talks about Dianetics – what it does for people and particularly what it did to Phil himself.
Part 2: Phil shares his views on a famous Policy Letter “Keeping Scientology Working”.
Part 3: What is wrong with religions? – Phil raises the question in this last part of the video.
‘My days are numbered…’ – said Phil Spickler ( Scientology veteran, class VIII auditor, Mission holder, who knew Ron well and worked with him) – in his last video, that was not ordinary. Could be because we met just after Phil got home from playing tennis with a twice younger body pro, could be not, but that day Phil had chosen not to be as diplomatic and polite as he usually is. He got really angry and you will know why if you watch the whole video through to the end… I highly recommend. (TB)
Before starting – a few words about Lawrence Wright’s book “Going Clear”
1/4 Habbard #1 and his invention
2/4 How to Approach a Case
3/4 Time and Change
4/4 A Message to David Miscavige
Предлагаю вниманию русскоязычных читателей перевод недавней статьи независимого саентолога Marty Rathbun, под названием “Как Изучать Саентологию”. Я перевела ее для знакомства, чтобы у Вас была возможность получить реальность о Независимых Саентологах Америки. Марти был когда то “правой рукой” Мицкевича, но покинул церковь в 2004 году. Он живет в Техасе со своей женой, которую встретил уже уйдя из церкви (проодитировал ее до Клира и обучил на одитора). Марти одитирует – это его основная работа. Я знаю Марти лично, так как он одитировал меня на 2 Ступени Моста.
В конце статьи Вы найдете ссылки на изданные в 2012 году 2 книги Марти о Саентологии.
Вот ссылка на оригинал статьи: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/how-to-study-scientology/
Обстоятельства моего изучения технологии Саентологии оказались благоприятными.
Я суммировал их в предыдущем посте, «Обучение вне стен». .
У истории есть дополнительный контекст, который, я считаю, проливает свет на мысли в последних здесь сообщениях, что, по-видимому вызвали ужас, распри, хаос, и даже объявление вражды.
Во-первых, прежде чем погрузиться в мое обучение Саентологии, я имел возможность работать непосредственно для Л. Рона Хаббарда в течение последних шести лет его жизни. Я был свидетелем конечного результата неизменной приверженности множеству деректив и технологий, им выпущенных. Это было не привлекательно. Настоящая трагедия, порядка примера, приведенного ЛРХ в Письме по управлению «Ответственность лидеров», история Симона Боливара. Кстати, похоже, я смогу рассказать об этом времени подробно и в контексте, которого оно заслуживает, где-то в конце этой весны.
На тот момент, когда я прибыл на корабль для обучения технологии – после пятнадцати лет службы в Морской Организации – у меня было не очень много технического обучения. Я сбежал из МО, и считал, что с Саентологией покончено навсегда. Единственная причина, по которой я вернулся, было обещание предоставить обучение технологии. Очевидно, веры у меня оставалось ни на грош ни в кого в иерархии Саентологии, так как я открыто совершил побег – самое предательское действие против верховного лидера, которое только можно представить в этой культуре. Мне нечего было терять. Я сбежал один раз, и если бы обещание было нарушено, то я бы удрал опять (что, собственно , в конечном счете и произошло в 2004 году). Но я был сугубо нацелен в полной мере понять и применять то, на охрану и защиту чего я уже пожертвовал лучшие годы своей взрослой жизни.
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Excerpt from Chapter Seven – Confessional:
In this wise, a new moral code is imposed upon individuals, covertly and against their own determinisms. It is exacerbated by repeated questioning about the individual’s failure to report on other Scientologists. After a while, a corporate Scientologist modifies her behavior accordingly, in order to avoid more security checks. She not only edits her own behavior and thoughts, she attempts to do the same with Scientologist friends and family members, so that she does not get into trouble for overlooking such transgressions of others. Thus, a process that was originally intended to free a person from the self-imposed mental prison she has created by her own inability to live up to what she considers right and ethical conduct becomes reversed. The preclear is instead forced to agree to a new mental prison, imposed by the organization based on what it decrees to be right or wrong. In short, the process replaces a person’s native judgment with a new judgment of its own. In practice, it is a dark and painful operation, making a person less self-determined and more other-determined.
It seems that the only solution open to corporate Scientologists to cope and carry on within their culture is to become moralists. Moralists who enforce on self and others morals which have been implanted. If corporate Scientologists police their own conduct fastidiously enough, and interfere enough with the behavior and conduct of their fellows, they reckon they might be spared the cost, embarrassment and pain of being ordered to further batteries of security checks. In fact, that is the only behavior that does avoid continual, expensive, and degrading security checks in corporate Scientology.
This is yet another example of Scientology Inc.’s reversal of end product. Confessional technology was developed with the purpose to help an individual recognize she is the cause of her own destiny – and it has a long history of realizing that purpose. This priceless technology has been twisted and corrupted to the point where now the individual winds up with her destiny blueprinted and dictated by the church.
These blueprints are enforced through a related – and now similarly corrupted – technology of Scientology: the technology of ethics.
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Saturday, 19th April, 2003 10:03:56pm
Name or Alias: Michael Tilse
Training and/or processing level: Clear
Org or location: AOLA
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 27 Years
Recommended Website – Scientology and the IRS
1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
Bettered ability to communicate, spiritual abilities
3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
Problems having a purpose, family problems
4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn’t seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
Kept hoping that it would all sort out, that I could go ‘OT’
6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to ‘help out’?
Both. Sea Org
7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a “final straw”?
Found out the facts of Hubbard’s death.
8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
I cannot conceive how it could be corrected, in a practical sense. It would take a massive effort to remove all the existing corporations, management structure and re-validate ALL the writings and tapes against authenticated originals, then re-issue them.
I simply do not think it can be done until the current structure is left unsupported by the field
10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
Doubt formula of Michael Leonard Tilse
19 April 2003
I have had my troubles over the years and I need you to read this sincere statement of opinion and belief written with trust in the creed of the church and the philosophy written by L. Ron Hubbard:
I have been frozen in the midst of an uncertainty since the early 1990s. This acute doubt came about because I thought I had observed within the Church of Scientology a refusal to apply standard policies about justice that were written by the author L. Ron Hubbard. These observations occurred during an effort to put ethics in on a former employer and Church member who committed a crime and suppressive act against me. These events seemed so contrary to what I had studied when I was in the Sea Org and on various courses composed of L. Ron Hubbard’s policy writings that I became despondent and upset.
Being in this doubt condition I sought answers to how these things could have occurred and answers to questions about other events related to L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology that did not make sense to me.
I tried to resolve these questions and my condition of doubt over the years and I paid for and received over 25 intensives of Sec Checks, FPRD and PTS Rundown counseling at AOLA in trying handle any personal issues that were making it persist. I was also trying to get onto L. Ron Hubbard’s advanced counseling levels.
I have come to realize that I have never actually resolved the doubt condition and that all my Church counseling and training, including much of the KTL and Life Orientation Courses, was done while I was in an unhandled lower condition of doubt despite myself having tried sincerely to find out the answers. So I have addressed it. Read the rest of this entry »
In remembrance of Heber, the President’s Office is sending you this copy of RJ-68.
This talk by LRH has not been available to the public for many years and includes some astounding information!
- LRH talks about Mary Sue & his children!
- The “Reform Codes” and the CANCELLATION OF DISCONNECTION, SEC CHECKS AND FAIR GAME!
- The true motive behind planetary decay by World Opposition Groups!
- The Fourth Dynamic Engram and the “Win” over the FDA!
- The discovery of the Third Party Law!
- The truth about Class VIII’s!
- The two branches of Scientology!
- An apology for ethics handlings!
Plus much, much more!
Ron’s talk to all Scientologists from the Flag Ship Apollo, gives us a rare glimpse into the early days of Scientology. It even includes a short audio clip of the 1969 New Year’s celebration on-board and is something we know Heber would want you to cherish. 1969 was the year he got into Scientology.
Download this secure audio file and feel free to share it with your friends:
P.S. You can call the President’s Office if this audio file doesn’t download properly and you will be sent a CD copy. (323) 960-3500 – ask for Heber’s Communicator.
by Phil Spickler on March 5th, 2011
March 6th, 2011