John Zegel – tape # 1, 1982

John Zegel

John Zegel provides an exceptionally in-depth look at the inner workings of Scientology’s corporations from 1973-1987.

The recordings were originally distributed on audio cassette; they swept through “the underground” and created quite a stir.

Zegel released three tapes critical of [Church of] Scientology before the organization had him silenced. After settling a lawsuit with [Church of] Scientology, Zegel recorded a fourth tape in which he withdrew many of the statements he had made.

All 4 tapes – audio and transcripts:

 ((Editors Comments in double parenthesis - Homer))

Copyright (C) 1982 John Zegel Redistribution rights granted for non-commercial purposes.

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Tape # 1

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

(excerpt from tape # 1 transcript)
…It was clear that the current situation regarding Ron, and the legal problems that he was facing, was far from an optimum situation. And Ron put together a group of people that was to be called the All Clear Committee. And the ACC had a specific purpose and that purpose was to get rid of all the legal hassles that were facing Ron, so that he could again come back out in the public.

And the person who was selected to be the chairman of the All Clear Committee was a young man named David Miscavige. Now David Miscavige’s principle claim to fame was that he had worked as part of the film unit. He had been in the CMO for some years, and he had gained a reputation as a person who could get things done when other people couldn’t.

He also gained a reputation of being the kind of person that could get things done by screaming at the top of his lungs, but getting things done was the important factor, and he gained for himself quite a reputation in that regard.

When it came time to select the chairman of the All Clear Committee, David was recommended. He was also a close friend of Pat Broeker, and he seemed to be just the right guy for doing that particular job.

Along with him, three women, or three other members specifically, were appointed to be part of the committee, and that committee was constituted separately from the Commodores Messenger Org. It had its own special communication line directly to Ron and that was going to prove to be instrumental in the future.

As time passed, the ACC began to come apart. That is to say, David Miscavige survived, but the other people who were members of the committee either left it for one reason or another, were perhaps Comm ev’d, one person was, or left the Sea Org. I don’t have the specifics on what happened to each individual person, but suffice it to say, the other three people from the committee eventually disappeared and David Miscavige was left on his own, holding this rather important post, and again, SEPARATE from the CMO.

And because he had this separate and rather special communication line, it put him in a position of being, in essence, senior to the CMO. Now, earlier than this time, when Ron and the CMO were all in the same location, the CMO worked directly with Ron, and consequently, had an enormous amount of power because of that personal and specific communication line. When Ron’s location was moved to his more secure quarters, and the quarters were…only Pat and and Annie Broeker were his principle aides, the CMO, in essence, became simply another management org in the upper level strata of Church management.

And this ACC, and eventually, just David Miscavige then, would be in a senior position because of this special communication line.

Now the evolution continued, and what happened was that David Miscavige became the principle communication link between the Church as a whole ((and Ron)). The whole management structure of the Church below was like a giant inverted funnel headed directly to him ((David Miscavige)), and he actually became the relay point for all communication from the Church directly to Ron.

Now that communication was on a couple of vias. It would all come up through the Church lines to David Miscavige, who would then specifically transport it and turn it over to Pat Broeker at a predesignated meeting place. Pat Broeker or his wife Annie Broeker would then transport that material back to LRH ((LRH's headquarters)) where it would be read ((by the Broekers)) and those particles that needed to go directly to Ron would be passed onto him.

That communication link and this secrecy of Ron’s physical location is going to turn out to be the basis of the power of these three people, Pat Broeker, Annie Broeker and David Miscavige.

Additionally, a few minutes ago, we were talking about trustees being appointed to manage Ron’s affairs during his absence, and these three people were going to become the trustees.

It is worthwhile now to spend a little time and talk about David Mayo, and what happened to remove him from a point of no inconsiderable responsibility.

As we mentioned earlier, David Mayo had been the Senior C/S International, a principle confidant and terminal of Ron’s. The two had worked together very closely in piloting new material, in working on research projects and so forth, and the fact that David Mayo has subsequently been removed from the Church and declared a Suppressive Person, is quite a story in itself, and how that came about is rather interesting.

Now David was posted as the Senior C/S International. That person is, in essence, the highest posted technical official in the Church outside of Ron himself. That’s a person who is responsible for the application of tech on a worldwide basis, and this is a person who works very closely with LRH when projects such as new pilot programs are put together and so forth.

David Mayo and Ron had a regular correspondence going back and forth IN WRITING after Ron moved to his new secure quarters. And the two of them would exchange a few letters a week, sometimes more, sometimes less, but at any rate, there was a constant stream of communication between them.

At one point, Ron asked David if he would please do a Security Check or a couple of sec checks on Pat Broeker. The purpose of these sec checks is not entirely clear but, nonetheless, Ron went to Pat Broeker and asked him to report to David Mayo and get these sec checks. Pat, of course, obliged, and he went to where David Mayo was stationed and received these sec checks.

Now I have not heard any specifics on exactly what was found, aside from the fact that some of the findings on those sec checks were unfavorable to Pat Broeker. A report was apparently written to Ron by David Mayo and sent up the lines. Now here is where this via of David Miscavige through the Broekers becomes a very important factor, because that was the comm line that any such report would have had to travel on. And indeed, those were the lines that the reports traveled on, and one or both of the reports regarding the sec checks were pulled off the lines by Pat Broeker.

Acknowledgements from Ron that went to David Mayo, contained a copy of the altered report that Pat Broeker had written, replacing David Mayo’s actual report of the outcome of the sec check. And the two reports were not precisely the same, as you might imagine.

David Mayo, on learning of this, tried a variety of approaches to correct this problem. He tried sending additional communications up the lines, and a personal confrontation with Pat Broeker, but this was to no avail. At that point, of course, he was, if you will, a marked man. He had to be gotten rid of because he had the secret.

So a campaign was initiated, ON THE RUMOR LINES, that David Mayo was plotting with some known Church enemies, specifically Alan Walter and Bill Franks, to take over the Church. Now those people who have worked closely with Ron in the past, several of whom I have spoken to, have indicated that Ron does not appreciate those kinds of take-over attempts. As a matter of fact, that is quite a button ((with Ron)), and if you wanted to do somebody in, in terms of discrediting them, that’s the ideal way to do so.

Apparently, this rumor was planted on Church lines, and as you can imagine, those rumor lines virtually hummed all around the Church with that information.

Well, any diligent staff member hearing such a rumor would feel obliged to write it up, and so the Knowledge Reports began to flow up the lines regarding this rumor, which was now beginning to circulate about David Mayo plotting to take over the Church. Those rumors, of course, found their way directly to Ron very quickly.

Dave Mayo’s communications about the fact that these sec check reports had been altered were stopped, but the Knowledge Reports of the take-over zipped right through the lines. So his position, David Mayo’s position in the Church, from Ron’s viewpoint, began to deteriorate. David Mayo had apparently completely fallen out of communication, all of his letters and so forth coming up the lines were stopped. Ron became concerned as to what had happened to David. He sent communications to various terminals in the Church, asking what happened to Dave Mayo, where is he, why haven’t I heard from him, that sort of thing. But no answers that David could originate could actually get through.

As a result of his being discredited, he was eventually removed from post and taken from Gilman Hot Springs to a Church location which is known as Happy Valley.

Now, there is a real place called Happy Valley. It is part of an Indian Reservation that’s apparently situated near a boxed canyon. Happy Valley is a chunk of land that is surrounded on all sides by the Indian Res. with a right of way for a road that goes back to it. These people were going to be transported to Happy Valley and what was going to happen to them there was that their ethics was going to be handled and this cycle was going to be handled with them.

The people that were being handled at this moment totaled sixteen. This included the Senior C/S International staff, which was 5 people and 11 additional people from other units. They were all transported to this particular location, which again, is in this Palm Springs area out in the desert.

Previous to this, a program had been announced by Ron called the Running Program. This was for staff of Golden Era Studios and for INT, the International Management Groups. What the running program consisted of was: vigorous exercise outdoors. The idea of the program was to stabilize the sleep/awake cycle and handle people, whose cases that had been apparently very badly enturbulated in some way, by extroverting their attention getting them outdoors and giving them good vigorous exercise to do. When this program had originally been put into action, David Mayo had been the person responsible for piloting it and Ron had sent him the materials and the instructions for doing so.

Again, this is 1982 now, and he had begun people running this program on a gradient. When he was transported out there, apparently this idea of gradients was not considered to have been standard and they were put on it for twelve hours a day, seven days a week. Now, during this period of time, several things were to happen: 1. Ethics handling was to be done on these 16 people. They were to receive a Comm ev and other ethics handling as required and ; 2. They were to do this running program and presumably be rehabilitated and recycled, if you will, back into the Church. In the earlier tape I made, some people got the impression that these individuals were just simply being victims of this activity and I want to correct that impression.

David Mayo and those people that were around him worked very hard using standard Church lines, knowledge reports, write-ups of one kind or another, to try and solve this dilemma that they were in; this sort of forced ethics situation, the fact that they were held captive, they were guarded 24 hours a day and those sorts of things. The idea that they were just victims of this is far from the truth. They were working very hard.

That’s not to say these people were treated kindly, or that this was a very pleasant time for them, because it certainly wasn’t. They were out in the middle of the desert, they were being forced to run during the daylight hours, and it was a very difficult period of time. You can imagine what it would be like, running in August, in the desert, around and around a tree, at about a 50ft radius, all day long. It was devastating, bodily, for them. They lost a tremendous amount of weight as a result of this kind of stress on a body. Many of them suffered from physical maladies, from sprained ankles, pulled ligaments, to the actual loss of teeth as a result of the body leeching minerals out of it’s own system.

This was a terribly difficult period of time for all of them, but these were individuals of enormous commitment to the Church and they were really knocking themselves out to not blow and to consequently take on the apparency of being an enemy. Because it really was their intention to sort out and resolve any difficulties that were there. But also, this period of time was not without its humor as well. People in the most adverse situations can make adjustments and find ways to live their lives in spite of these horrendous events.

Dave Mayo tells a story of him being assigned his own particular tree, separate from everybody else. The reasons for that are not completely clear but, nonetheless, it was felt important that he be completely segregated from the group. They had a supervisor whose job was to watch them during the day and make sure they didn’t stop running; that their rest periods were not excessive and so forth. The two trees, the one tree the balance of the people were running around, and David’s tree, were apparently a considerable distance apart. One person standing in one spot could see both trees but, it was a good walk from one to the other.

So, what David would do is: sit down and the supervisor would, of course, begin to walk across the intervening space to get to David. By the time he would get there, everybody at the other tree was sitting down. So, the supervisor would say to David, “Come on, get up and get going here,” and David would comply and get up and start to jog around the tree, or whatever, and the supervisor would turn around and, of course, would now have to head back for the other tree, because everybody else there was sitting down. Right after he would pass the half way point, David would sit down, so, he would then turn around and see David sitting down but, he was past the half way point , so he would go and handle the other ones and apparently, they caused this fellow considerable excess walking back and forth between the two trees as this period went on.

At any rate, the result of the Comm ev was that David, and virtually everyone else connected with the Comm ev, were found to be suppressive people and were going to be expelled from the Church and so forth. David will be issuing or has already issued a not inconsiderable paper on his position regarding what happened and I don’t presume to speak for him here, but, suffice it to say here, the findings were not, from his point of view, just, and I have seen substantial evidence that supports that point of view.

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